First of all, we all know StevenP wouldn’t be at this if all he got out of thousands of people reading his stuff was the two more-or-less-useless recruits he mentioned. I have enough trouble getting people to understand my POINT to know that StevenP wants me to make his POINT clear before I go into MINE.

Net statistics are tricky, but StevenP has rubbed THOUSANDS of noses in the Mantra. Once someone GETS that, he is on the defensive. He has wreaked untold damage on the enemy. A lot of people won’t GET the Mantra, but that is more than balanced by the fact that, when anyone GETS, they spread it.

Even if they are AGAINST it. In fact, that is the best place for its spread.

What StevenP was explaining was not what a defeatist would grab onto: “See, I tried, but it’s all HOPELESS!” If that had any truth to it, StevenP would be one of the few who has EARNED THE RIGHT TO QUIT.

Which is why, maybe next to me, StevenP is the least likely to go sit in the Crying Corner.

This is one hell of a fight, and StevenP wants this challenge!

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Now, as they said on Monty Python, “Here is something completely different:”

StevenP, who is IN ACTION, explains in fresh numbers what I keep saying here. It’s TOUGH out there blowing on the smoke to get a fire going. That’s why I worked my butt off to get the Mantra and some other SHORT material that StevenP and Mark and Brain could use.

At this point, there are TWO people who have described how hard it is to assemble even the number of people we have here, much less the out-of-sight quality of them.

Look at all the WORK StevenP has done here. And he got two people who aren’t fit to tie your shoes. But AT LAST StevenP gives you a key to understanding I am not just being a promoter when I express pride in the group we have here, and, above all, why it took me YEARS of work and overcoming defeatism in my own mind to do it.

Why did I do this? Was it so people would say, “WOW! That Bob is Tough and a Fighter!” I hate to burst your bubble. I like praise as much as the next guy, But if you think I went through all this just to get your good opinion, you are grossly overestimating your power over me.

But here StevenP has given you, in hard, cold figures, what I am trying to TEACH here. Extrapolate from all his work the time and effort and KNOW-HOW, which is what this seminar is all about, it took for me to assemble this brilliant little band. Extrapolate the KNOW-HOW it took me to get the top-level experts in computers who produced this Blog.

StevenP is showing you what I have to TEACH. Two in twenty thousand, and those two don’t carry through! Is it surprising that my only response to those who lecture me abut how THEY “Have a life” and I don’t understand that problem is a tired smile?

Does it surprise you that, after years and lord knows how much money spent finding the exact weapons to use, I ask AFKAN not to repeat the same thing over and over HERE?

I wish to Heaven I were NOT indispensable. However glorious Mr. Webb says your “heel-clicking” is to me, and would seem to be to HIM, nobody would go through one percent of what I have through for all the heel-clicking at a Nuremberg Rally, especially when they are in my condition.

Unless you have done what I did and StevenP is doing, you cannot imagine how wonderful it is for me when Al Parker says, in passing,

“As far as Harold Covington goes, he is a One True Way man who burned out years ago and spends almost all of his time complaining about the movement (or non-movement) and attacking its leadership and rank-and-file (I guess what you would call a “Webb”). He would surely attack you, AFKAN, for TALKING about his “analytical framework” instead of putting your stuff in a van and heading to the northwest.”

Comment by Al Parker

A “One True Way man!” That is Beautiful! That is the kind of thing I spend YEARS trying to come up with! Al Parker says that in passing, but that is the GENIUS of it, and if you haven’t got the KNOW-HOW I have, you cannot realize he has put a weapon in our hands that a hundred huge TOMES could not have produced.

THAT is what I am looking for here. Not the repetition of some One True Faith. The only thing I demand here is that you help preserve my race. Anything else I say is to entertain ME or you – I need breaks a lot and I assume humans do, too — or an idea I would like some help working out.

To repeat, I can’t get corrected if I don’t SAY it. I say things for you to respond to, not to judge me on.

But the whole point of this seminar is for MY KNOW-HOW TO BECOME YOUR KNOW-HOW.

I am blowing on this flame so that people will say, “Gosh, that Bob sure knows to make a fire from scratch!” The only reason I am making this fire is so that it will spread and drive the damned PC crowd over the cliff.

But you don’t START OUT debating theories of what you will do with all that meat once you drive it over the cliff.

AFKAN, after one month testing, 2000 visitors drawn in and some 20,000 people exposed to the mantra/riddle, I’ve only managed to get two (2) people interested in pro-white activism. Of these two neither has followed the guide and set up the activism platform.

What I’ve learnt after this one month test is that getting people to do something as simple as copy/pasting the mantra or setting up a blog/tracker account is a NIGHTMARE. I’m therefore re-writing the handbook to make it even simpler.

I won’t get into the merits or demerits of the Convington plan. I’ll just state point blank that if you’re trying to talk people into doing something that’s actually hard, like migrating to another state, you’re dead in the water. I’m sorry to break this to you but that’s the way it is.

SysOp, I’m toying with the idea of either setting up dozens of ready made activism platforms and handing them out to activists OR finding a way to cut out the activism platform altogether. To do that I was thinking about having activists use unique links. For example:

http://www.nationalsalvation.net?55

http://www.nationalsalvation.net?stevenp

http://www.nationalsalvation.net?lordnelson

As I understand it anything that follows the question mark in a URL is ignored. But is there a tracker that picks up this ID? Is there another way of providing activists with unique URLs to send traffic to short of making tons of metatag-relay pages

AFKAN, Please listen to Bob.

For as long as you’ve been here and commenting, I have never been able to finish one of your comments in one sitting. Now my attention span isn’t great for reading long passages and there are many commenters here who have informed us of their ADD. If it’s hard for me, please think of them.

When I first started commenting here I was writing long comments, but each time I acknowledged that with an apology. I didn’t know how to write. I still don’t know all the intricacies, but I have managed to work the wordiness out of my writing. I KNOW that you can get to the point sooner.

-Brian

Comment by Brian

AFKAN, I was stunned to see that you answered Bob’s response to your comment with almost the exact same comment and did not address his suggestions. You seem to be looking for an intellectual position in the pro-white field rather than a hands-on working position. If that’s the case I don’t blame you because no professor would want to teach those who are hostile or don’t want to listen.

On another note, I think there is no way today to eliminate the need for making arguments at length. I think there are many who simply don’t trust arguments that are short and sweet (despite the fact that the shortest proofs are the most elegant). They want to know if the “smart people” believe this stuff too, and they want the bibliographies to see what other smart people believe in it. I don’t see a substitute for a thick book by an author with name recognition to supplement a given mantra.

As far as Harold Covington goes, he is a One True Way man who burned out years ago and spends almost all of his time complaining about the movement (or non-movement) and attacking its leadership and rank-and-file (I guess what you would call a “Webb”). He would surely attack you, AFKAN, for TALKING about his “analytical framework” instead of putting your stuff in a van and heading to the northwest.

Comment by Al Parker

I criticized AFKAN for repeating the same point over and over HERE. We got it. That repetition is needed out THERE.

I would appreciate it if no one else would approve AFKAN until I see them. What I am criticizing is his writing style, and I am always open to someone telling me if I am being unfair.

So let me get on with my personal criticism. First, a critical point for all of us as writers: AFKAN is LAZY. It is time for us to stop taking this critical rule of writing as a joke: WORK in writing is BREVITY in writing. This last AFKAN entry was 606 words.

To say the same thing for the umpteenth time.

The Mantra took me as long to develop as one of my BOOKS.

Second is a matter of common courtesy. AFKAN has touted his hero Covington at least a dozen times here. I pointed out that this is NOT Covington’s blog. He continued to push Covington.

This is just plain rude.

I ask for 1) courtesy, 2) for a person to not say the same thing more than a dozen times HERE, and 3) do some WORK to cut comment length.

None of this strikes me as unreasonable.

“Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible.”
George Orwell

Comment by richard

ME:

THANK YOU, richard!

From Stormfront Thead, I was answering a Britisher that any former subject of the Crown had a right to be in England. He says he only believes in “democracy and the Rule of Law”:

ME:

Would you feel safer in the 1930s under the flawed United States Constitution or under the admittedly much more ideal Stalinist Constitution Stalin gave the USSR in 1936, which gave all the freedoms in the Bill of Rights and even the right to secede?

Would you feel safer in Uganda under British Constitution or in Britain under a British Constitution?

“not racist,” like libertarians, believes in Magic. He thinks that the minute a third-worlder crosses a Magic Line into England, the Magic Line makes him democratic and nice.

Libertarians say that if you bring the whole third world to America, under our Magic Constituting and across that Magic Line called the Rio Grande, everybody will be rich and happy. I am NOT exaggerating here. Strip off all the crap and that is what otherwise adult human beings are SAYING! The Free Market inside our Magic Borders will take care of everything.

“not racist” says that you don’t have to be English to be English. Anybody will do as long as they cross the Magic Line and bow to Her Majesty the Queen. The Free Market and the British Constitution will take care of everything.

You don’t have to argue with these people. You just have to state what they are saying PLAINLY.

I never go out, but Pain came from Greenville and got me invited to a party of some like-thinking people Saturday night. Let me assure you I maintained the dignity of the blog, so when they poured me out the door about 3 am I could still see the lawn in front of my face.

By the way, Pain, have you seen my car?

ANYWAY, I was trying to explain our blog’s mode of operation and we were sitting around a portable fireplace in the yard. I said, “You see that fire?” I don’t know if it ever really happened, but it used to be said that early men would set the grass on fire to drive wild cattle over a cliff.”

I continued, “Now if you asked any animal how that giant, red blaze, the one that terrifed thousands of the biggest beings they had ever seen, they would tell you a GIANT did it.”

“If you showed them a human being, a helpless creature with tiny teeth and fingernails, hitting rock together and then blowing carefully on the tiny bits of smoke it produced on a dry leaf, and said THAT was the source, the animal would, if it could, laugh in your face.”

“Everybody is looking for a GIANT. A Giant Conspiracy, Giant corporations, giant ANYTHING. But rich people and corporations, in the end, aren’t really interested in IDEAS, particularly not NEW ones. The Blog is down there blowing carefully on what smoke we can generate. That’s where FIRES come from.”

Maybe my smoking ember is beginning to burn: Lord Nelon simply used the Mantra to show how THEY define our race.

In a thread on socialism in SF, I pointed out that the POINT is that society carefully separates liberals from democratic soclialists from Communists. Anything else is MCCARTHYISM. But nobody separates ANY concern over the white race from Nazism. Nobody ever MENTIONS that, including US!

Examples are EVERYWHERE. Why do I have to come up with them all? Huzzah for Lord Nelson!

Bloggers, light the fire!

The perfect study of the kind of exchanges we should in web sites may be seen by reading Lord Nelson and Prometheus in action in:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/great-anti-racist-challenge-378160.html?p=4197117&posted=1

Lord Nelson, using the Mantra, answered the usual question “What is the white race” by turning the Mantra around. He said that if you want the definition of white, look at the countries which liberal opinion insists have to take in massive third world immigraton.

We keep reading media comments about whether Eastern Europe is “ready for immigration” YET. Nobody takes it for granted that Japan or Taiwan must be getting “ready for immigration.” Africans could be saved from starvation by some of those hard-working, smart non-white immigrants everyody insists white coutnries are belssed with, but NOBODY says they must “prepare for emergration.

Like the Golden Rule, the Mantra does more than one job. The Golden Rule says to treat others as you would have them treat you. So how does this say you should treat yourself?

Lord Nelson has made what I am thirsting for. He has been begun to develop a LOGIC from our approach.

Lord Nelson is having fun, because when he plants the seed he goes back to a thread and stays on the tails of those who use ANY Mommy Professor line. And PLEASE don’t use the old line that “A lot of the groups ban me.” SOME ban you.

I don’t understand why this is brain surgery. If they ban you you can’t go back to them so don’t go back to those.

You do not go back to the ones that ban you. Use a little logic.

Where you don’t get banned, don’t fight everybody. Pick the replies that let YOU make OUR point.

Another thing I have started to do over the past few months is direct my anger at the Self Hating White people. I try to keep them under a constant state of criticism. I always say “self hating white people” and I keep saying it and poking fun of them. White Nationalist try to ‘convince’ and ’save’ them. I attack them. Personally and viciously. These particular Asians loved this as well.

Instead of being combative toward non-whites, I am outright hostile toward ‘SHWPs” (self hating white people). This constant state of criticism can turn the page quickly. Hell, the liberals have successfully done it for years on US. Going from an argumentative state toward SHWP’s to a combative state helps me internally as well. It brings out my righteous hatred, they are the ones that put me on a bus that they would never put their kids on. THEY insulate the “elites” so the SHWP’s make up the ‘class that is guilty of EVERYTHING’. (sorry for sounding like a commie…..but I have actually entered many second and third conversions with liberals well after the initial beating given to them….over these types of statements alone). Anti-racist say they want to beat the white male until he is dead. LOL. Well, I kinda have come around to doing these similar tactics to the SHWP’s. They deserve it.

I would say things like:”self hating white people like you always operate under ‘moral supremacy’. It has to be YOUR version of Human Rights, Democracy, environmental policy… etc.” I have developed a handful of these. Non-Whites LOVE these lines. The Asians could NOT stop nodding their heads in agreement. After all, they are TRUE. The liberals looked totally confused and uncomfortable.

Comment by ONEtribe

Another thing I have started to do over the past few months is direct my anger at the Self Hating White people. I try to keep them under a constant state of criticism. I always say “self hating white people” and I keep saying it and poking fun of them. White Nationalist try to ‘convince’ and ‘save’ them. I attack them. Personally and viciously. These particular Asians loved this as well.

Instead of being combative toward non-whites, I am outright hostile toward “SHWPs” (self hating white people). This constant state of criticism can turn the page quickly. Hell, the liberals have successfully done it for years on US. Going from an argumentative state toward SHWP’s to a combative state helps me internally as well. It brings out my righteous hatred, they are the ones that put me on a bus that they would never put their kids on. THEY insulate the “elites” so the SHWP’s make up the ‘class that is guilty of EVERYTHING’. (sorry for sounding like a commie…..but I have actually entered many second and third conversions with liberals well after the initial beating given to them….over these types of statements alone). Anti-racist say they want to beat the white male until he is dead. LOL. Well, I kinda have come around to doing these similar tactics to the SHWP’s. They deserve it.

I would say things like: “self hating white people like you always operate under ‘moral supremacy’. It has to be YOUR version of Human Rights, Democracy, environmental policy… etc.” I have developed a handful of these. Non-Whites LOVE these lines. The Asians could NOT stop nodding their heads in agreement. After all, they are TRUE. The liberals looked totally confused and uncomfortable.

Comment by ONEtribe