My whole career has been spotted with incidents where people have been trying to take over groups.
My reaction to trolls in BUGS has been less feeling threatened than being flattered. But the poor bastards who decide to take over BUGS face the same kind of problem as that faced by the anti-whites trying to argue with us.
There’s no THERE THERE.
Other organizations come with bank accounts and, far, far more important, with contributors’ lists. These are lists of people who have given before and who give fairly regularly. A SINGLE contributor’s name, address, and giving history can sell for several hundred dollars. When groups are sold, almost all the assets consist of the CLs.
Another valuable thing a group has is its endorsements.
BUGS has one contributor and one known endorser.
When an outfit is having a major effect on public information, a big asset its enemies get by taking it over secretly is discrediting it. Again this takeover asset runs into a major block by the nature of BUGS. Absolutely none of our arguments that are causing so much trouble have anything to do with the credibility of BUGS.
If BUGS were exposed as a den of Satanists, it would have no effect on the simple fact that “assimilation” is aimed at ALL white countries and ONLY white countries.
The Feds spent fifteen million bucks or so convicting David Duke because of the importance of his name. Nothing about Bob’s message is based on Bob’s name.
They are concentrating some fairly heavy resources on us, or would if it would do any good.
So if you can think of anything they could do to us or with us, I’d like to hear about it.
#1 by Jason on 07/26/2012 - 8:34 am
As Dick Whitman pointed out, the main danger seems to be associating the Mantra with some crazy figures. Or trying to mix the Mantra with some neo-nazi message.
And some might try to weaken the message through subtle changes. But, everyone seems pretty damn alert to all that.
This whole approach doesn’t require much material organization or leadership. Having a community of trusted Mantra people who will speak out if something seems really odd will be invaluable.
They might try and merge us with some other program under the guise of “combining resources”. And maybe the biggest warning sign, will be if someone declares himself, “leader”.
#2 by six gun on 07/26/2012 - 9:48 am
Well there isn’t copyright content to take over.
And there aren’t any money contributors I know of.
And there aren’t any sales.
The name BUGS means something but it doesn’t generate any revenue.
A “takeover” would have two objectives.
Someone or some people who felt they were more skilled and knowledgable to take the Mantra onto the next level. Better website, better media, better education package, better marketing, better training and so on.
The other alternative a group who wanted to destroy BUGS.
#3 by Daniel Genseric on 07/26/2012 - 10:03 am
They could black bag and toe tag us.
Not likely.
#4 by c-bear on 07/26/2012 - 10:41 am
I’m sure they would like to shut down B.U.G.S., but I think what they are really after is the message, in which case they are too late.
#5 by Dave on 07/26/2012 - 11:44 am
BUGS faces no danger in being “taken over”. The danger is in precisely the opposite direction: BUGS could fail to “take over”.
Robert Whitaker is a specialist in throwing light on the corruption and nature of politics from a panoramic, temporal, and macro perspective. The depth and breadth of his work is astounding. It is an unrivaled intellectual feat.
Warfare in today’s world is dependent on the quality of intelligence perspectives, assessment, psychological operations, and proxy forces.
Our enemies are weak. They do not know what to do. Let me repeat: They do not know what to do. The quality of their intelligence is poor. Their assessment capability is a joke. They were better at pscyh ops in the 19th century than they are now. They are unable to control their proxy forces. Their creeds are strictly third rate.
In short, they are an outfit that functions at a low state. They fail in the fundamentals.
BUGS is a leg up on a competition that can be easily defeated.
#6 by Gavin on 07/26/2012 - 12:44 pm
I believe that our biggest weakness now is ourselves getting sloppy.
The only thing they can do now it try to make people scared of us. I have seen them impersonate us and play authoritarian. That’s about all they can do other than hope we get sloppy or emotional.
#7 by Daniel Genseric on 07/26/2012 - 12:45 pm
Honestly, Bob.
YOU almost killed the swarm by discouraging link reporting.
#8 by six gun on 07/26/2012 - 1:59 pm
Publishing links to the world does not make sense.
I believe Bob did right.
These posts sit there waiting to get knocked out, like a red rag to a bull.
Many posts get knocked out when posters post the same material in using the same username. Some get knocked out when material gets posted in the wrong place and too many people get infuriated.
There is no reason why other than members of the site see where material is being posted. You can have private pages.
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/private-pages/
I have just installed this plugin on my PC WordPress site. You cannot access the private page unless you are logged into the site.
#9 by six gun on 07/26/2012 - 3:31 pm
I am right. I am 100% correct.
Bob did right.
Bob did right to take the posts off the public face of the website.
BUT that should have only been half the story.
What was wrong was a privacy plugin was not installed.
I said there should be private areas but those who can, did not listen and if they did they did not act.
There is a plugin – I put the link up.
Make that thread disappear unless you are a member signed in.
It is not perfect protection but it is better than exposing all.
I just installed it on a WordPress website in 2 minutes and configured it to make a page disappear in 3 minutes.
#10 by Daniel Genseric on 07/26/2012 - 7:42 pm
Doh-kay…
When reporting goes from every few minutes to hours and then days, then many not posting at all. That does not a positive change make.
The solution was to do what you say in the last half of your post PLUS a PUBLIC vetting process. That means you were 50% right at best. hahah But sometimes simple math isn’t so simple I guess.
#11 by backbaygrouch on 07/27/2012 - 6:34 am
Perhaps a time delay, except when swarm action is requested, would work. Report a post, say, three days after. By then it is stale. Yet one can check out whatever effect or counteraction it caused. Consider it an autopsy.
#12 by six gun on 07/27/2012 - 8:02 am
For a swarm to work best its members must know where the other members are operating.
The posting of links draws members in and augments and potentiates the process.
The issue is not advertising it to the world.
Having a private area does not inhibit BUGS’ activities.
I agree there is the issue of who is friend and who is foe, but unless we seriously look at this, then BUGS leaves itself open to the enemy simply coming to the site and following us to our target areas.
#13 by Byron on 07/26/2012 - 12:59 pm
I can easily believe that you have no list of anyone to help any of your projects financially. Many months ago I responded to Bob’s general request and sent $100 to Kelso for some political ad where the mantra was to be promoted. Not only did I never hear back, but none of my inquiries here have been answered. Was the ad run? What were the results? Did I just send Kelso and his partner to Red Lobster with my donation? Who knows. Not the smartest behavior from someone soliciting donations.
As far as what “they” could “do” to you, I’d imagine the worst thing any non-bugster can do is ignore the mantra, if they have even heard of it.
#14 by Daniel Genseric on 07/26/2012 - 1:13 pm
I was thinking this, but you SAID it. Also, did Bob not match your donation of $100? And I seem to remember at least one other who claimed he sent Team Kelso some money.
I’m not complaining. I just haven’t heard anything about how this campaign money was used?.
I did have a member of A3P ask me to work my local area. I couldn’t help but laugh inside as they haven’t even stuck to their part of the bargain.
At this point, my money is on Free cheddar biscuits.
#15 by H.Avenger on 07/26/2012 - 8:13 pm
I asked Jamies wife about the donations for the ads (over at WNN she helps run things). She told me that Jamie was going to run them. That was quite some time ago. But we are still in the political season. Jamie’s wife is “sigrid” over at WNN. You can read the message below.
“Merlin Miller will be doing ads. There’s no question about it.
You can call Jamie at 561/351-4424 if you’d like… anytime. I think it would be better if you phoned him yourself (or Bob) as it can be difficult to reach Bob via the phone (and Jamie’s a phone guy more than an internet guy ). The money has not yet been spent on ads.
Anyway, he can explain things better than I can, Horus. ”
I assume if he does not run the ads. He will be sending the money back to Bob and everyone else.
#16 by shari on 07/26/2012 - 1:49 pm
I was the other person who sent a small amount to Kelso. I have to say, I don’t think those checks were cashed. At least mine has never come back.
#17 by backbaygrouch on 07/26/2012 - 3:15 pm
There are many, many sites that will peg a dollar value on a website. Their estimates can vary widely. Picked at random from a google search worthofweb.com deems that BUGS is worth $5,379. Urlappraisal.net chimes in with $20,060,26. Siteworthchecker.com sniffs a measly $1,256.
Ah, but all that glitters is not gold. What is important is the continuing sparkling smiles of blond, blue-eyed babies, and various other hair and eye colors of White newborns. The supply of these kids is being threatened with genocide, even the freckled gingers. That is what BUGS is about and it is priceless.
#18 by Tom Bowie on 07/26/2012 - 4:04 pm
They can’t do the thing that would hurt the message the most; they can’t back off. The propaganda has made the average Anti-White so stupid that they continue to promote White geNOcide programs right in front of everybody.
Most Anti-Whites can’t help themselves and the few that know better can only watch the train head toward it’s doom.
#19 by Dick_Whitman on 07/26/2012 - 7:57 pm
Thank you for writing this Bob.
I have been concerned that the anti-Whites would try to associate the message with crazies, buffoons, and scumbags. But you are correct that it doesn’t make our message any less true if it is associated with crazies, buffoons, and scumbags. It can SLOW the message, because the masses by nature are more concerned with appearances than truth, but the truth is the truth. The whole energy of a room can change by someone pointing out a truth. It really doesn’t matter who says the truth.
I do believe the anti-Whites will still try to associate the message using a unit of buffoons. But I guess there’s no reason to worry too much about this because a) there’s nothing we can do anyway about anti-White starting a website or marching the street like circus monkeys b) it might end up spreading the message for us? The point is, this tactic is out of our control, so I suppose there’s no reason to worry about it.
The other strategy is to get us to stop spreading the message itself. This can be achieved by casting doubt on the effectiveness of the message, and/or by causing infighting within BUGS. Infighting or arguing causes morale to drop which leads to less Swarming.
Whoever moderates BUGS needs to remain vigilant against these these tactics. If someone is continuously negative, unreasonable, insulting, and/or combative, then they’re probably looking for trouble?
Bottom-line
Spread the message
Spread the message
Spread the message
#20 by Scythian on 07/27/2012 - 1:03 am
So if a walking talking disease found the cure to cancer, “humanity” wouldn’t use the cure? It seems to me everybody’s reliance on “presentation” as opposed to the simple obvious truth is a recipe for not making pro-white permanent.
#21 by Svenn13 on 08/01/2012 - 7:54 pm
Typically what I have seen from these Pink Rabbit Bastards is infiltration and sowing of division among the Brethren. Thanx for all your Hard work Dr. Whitaker.