B. U. G. S.

“We have established the terminology is anti-White. ANYONE that uses anti-White terminology in the real world, is doing the anti-Whites job, in the real world.

Ah. At least now I understand (though I don’t yet fully agree with) your using “anti-white” for bugsters who depart from standard Mantra terms. I’ve a ways to go before I make the transition from the kumbaya world of internal motivations to the harsh real world of actual effects. (“I didn’t realize my gun was pointed at our Lieutenant, really I didn’t…”)

Dungeoneer carries the point further to something very important (my boldfacing):

“Do anti-white trolls want to dilute our proven effective mantra material with their untested and unproven non-mantra material at any time of their choosing while we give our valid verdicts and then engage in debate with them about the ‘real’ ‘workingness’ of said non-mantra material?”

That gives me a whole new slant on the episode months ago when another bugster and I were trying out even in swarm posts my idea of subtly appropriating the word “white” to mean “white and normal,” and you and Dungeoneer and Genseric gave me such an excruciatingly hard time about it. It turned out that I was right at that point in interpreting that Bob had not forbidden the experiment, but he had certainly not clearly stated that when I began it, and I realize from what Dungeoneer just wrote that you three were right to oppose me. I’ve said since I was first here that keeping the Mantra from being corrupted in the years ahead is going to be a very huge challenge for us. It needs to take priority over the urge of so many of us to invent and create, even if we lose a few good things.

Nevertheless, being who I am, if Bob gives me permission when I finally get skyped and talk to him, I’m going to resume my own experiment at some point. But this time around I’ll have a very different perspective on it and on criticism of it.

Genseric, re Bob’s attitude, you seem to be in a situation only slightly worse than my own when I began my own experiment. Bob wrote this today re your use of “Eurocide:”

“It definitely wastes time in our tiny but successful effort to make the term ‘white genocide’ effective.”

But some of his surrounding remarks seem to indicate he might possibly be open to your experimenting on your own and reporting the results.

Since you are so gung ho about this (and anything you’re gung ho about, I have serious consideration for, despite its initial appearances), why don’t you ask Bob if you might do what I did: Set up a thread here onto which you copy series of exchanges where you’ve tried the technique, and then Bob and the rest of us as well as you yourself can review and discuss them and see. I can’t imagine that “Eurocide,” except in special cases like Vale’s image, is a good idea, but you’ve been using it and just possibly you could be right. Ask Bob if you can do it and if he says yes, let us see what you’re doing exactly, as I had begun to do with my own experiment.

I think the problem is that we get bored doing the same thing over and over, and our creative impulses crave relief. And the more I think about it, the more I think that you and I both would be better advised to each forget our little experiments and turn our creative urges to finding clever ways to spread what we already have that works.

The desire to create is a strong one, but I have little confidence that I or you are likely to improve on something that Bob Whitaker has developed and tested.

That’s what my head tells me, but my insides tell me to run my experiment! Saner heads take note!